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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe all will be OK by 2010. I think that&#039;s the year Lulu planned to compete for the Champions League spots. That&#039;s when Dieter Hoeness supposedly leaves the club as well. And by then they plan to reduce the debt to just €20-25m. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe all will be OK by 2010. I think that&#8217;s the year Lulu planned to compete for the Champions League spots. That&#8217;s when Dieter Hoeness supposedly leaves the club as well. And by then they plan to reduce the debt to just €20-25m. <img src='http://hertha.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Abby</title>
		<link>http://hertha.theoffside.com/team-news/power-struggles-bei-hertha.html#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I think that&#039;s the big question, Jan. What should Hertha expect? Teams like Bremen and Leverkusen, with a local fanbase and venue far smaller than Hertha&#039;s, have had sustained success. Bremen are a good example- they consolidated their success and are now expected to be good each season.

Again, I always see a lot of talk about the potential of Hertha. Berlin is a major city with a massive population and a big tourist draw, with one team in the top league that plays in a large historic stadium. Should it be expecting more? Why hasn&#039;t it consolidated its success in the way other clubs have? If it&#039;s a monetary issue, it can perhaps be laid on Hoeness- he&#039;s the one who&#039;s supposed to be managing it. It&#039;s hard to say for sure, though. I don&#039;t know what&#039;s really going on behind the scenes. It does sound like the board is getting fed up, though. 

Allofs and Schaaf would have done a great job with Berlin, I bet. But they&#039;re special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I think that&#8217;s the big question, Jan. What should Hertha expect? Teams like Bremen and Leverkusen, with a local fanbase and venue far smaller than Hertha&#8217;s, have had sustained success. Bremen are a good example- they consolidated their success and are now expected to be good each season.</p>
<p>Again, I always see a lot of talk about the potential of Hertha. Berlin is a major city with a massive population and a big tourist draw, with one team in the top league that plays in a large historic stadium. Should it be expecting more? Why hasn&#8217;t it consolidated its success in the way other clubs have? If it&#8217;s a monetary issue, it can perhaps be laid on Hoeness- he&#8217;s the one who&#8217;s supposed to be managing it. It&#8217;s hard to say for sure, though. I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s really going on behind the scenes. It does sound like the board is getting fed up, though. </p>
<p>Allofs and Schaaf would have done a great job with Berlin, I bet. But they&#8217;re special.</p>
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		<title>By: Bundesliga Offside Rewind: Jens Lehmann Impersonator - Hamburger SV - The Offside - German Football League Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bundesliga Offside Rewind: Jens Lehmann Impersonator - Hamburger SV - The Offside - German Football League Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Abby also analysed a power struggle within her club, that promises to entertain us for about two more years. (Hertha Offside) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://hertha.theoffside.com/team-news/power-struggles-bei-hertha.html#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 05:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what to make of Dieter Hoeness. He surely established Berlin as a Bundesliga mainstay, with a Champions League season and several UEFA Cup seasons as main achievements (though, the club was in a bit of relegation trouble last season). But Berlin is also servicing a debt of over €40m, and I don&#039;t know to what extend this is also Hoeness&#039; fault. Somewhere back in 2001(?) a TV deal broke, because a media tycoon went bankrupt, and those who picked up the pieces seized the moment to lower the price of the TV deal (also one reason why it&#039;s so small compared to other leagues). This got the Bundesliga as a whole in financial trouble, but especially exposed those clubs with a rather shaky way of budgeting &gt;&gt; Hertha.

You can also question whether establishing a club from Germany&#039;s largest city with a 72000 capacity UEFA-5-Star stadium as a rather anonymous mid-table team that currently averages around 42000 per home game is such an achievement? Maybe it is. I don&#039;t know what circumstances Hoeness had to deal with.

Hoeness might have just made one of the smarter moves of his managing career by appointing Lulu as coach. Lulu wants to play attractive and highly tactical football in the long run, and this could help boost the profile of the team and help attract more fans. Which again would help the economic side of things.

But I wonder what the combo of Bremen&#039;s Klaus Allofs+Thomas Schaaf could have done with Hertha in the same timeframe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to make of Dieter Hoeness. He surely established Berlin as a Bundesliga mainstay, with a Champions League season and several UEFA Cup seasons as main achievements (though, the club was in a bit of relegation trouble last season). But Berlin is also servicing a debt of over €40m, and I don&#8217;t know to what extend this is also Hoeness&#8217; fault. Somewhere back in 2001(?) a TV deal broke, because a media tycoon went bankrupt, and those who picked up the pieces seized the moment to lower the price of the TV deal (also one reason why it&#8217;s so small compared to other leagues). This got the Bundesliga as a whole in financial trouble, but especially exposed those clubs with a rather shaky way of budgeting &gt;&gt; Hertha.</p>
<p>You can also question whether establishing a club from Germany&#8217;s largest city with a 72000 capacity UEFA-5-Star stadium as a rather anonymous mid-table team that currently averages around 42000 per home game is such an achievement? Maybe it is. I don&#8217;t know what circumstances Hoeness had to deal with.</p>
<p>Hoeness might have just made one of the smarter moves of his managing career by appointing Lulu as coach. Lulu wants to play attractive and highly tactical football in the long run, and this could help boost the profile of the team and help attract more fans. Which again would help the economic side of things.</p>
<p>But I wonder what the combo of Bremen&#8217;s Klaus Allofs+Thomas Schaaf could have done with Hertha in the same timeframe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Abby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem! That&#039;s my job. :D

He was available? No idea, Ben. He&#039;s done well in some cases, and confusingly in others. I think the question is whether the board/us the fans want Hertha to stay where they are- mid-table, occasionally a bit lower- or if the ambitions are higher. I keep hearing about the potential of Hertha, but nothing ever seems to come of that. Also, what I like about Preetz is that he&#039;s definitely a Hertha man. No arguing with that. I don&#039;t know how he&#039;d do, though, since Hoeneß isn&#039;t giving him the training he needs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem! That&#8217;s my job. <img src='http://hertha.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>He was available? No idea, Ben. He&#8217;s done well in some cases, and confusingly in others. I think the question is whether the board/us the fans want Hertha to stay where they are- mid-table, occasionally a bit lower- or if the ambitions are higher. I keep hearing about the potential of Hertha, but nothing ever seems to come of that. Also, what I like about Preetz is that he&#8217;s definitely a Hertha man. No arguing with that. I don&#8217;t know how he&#8217;d do, though, since Hoeneß isn&#8217;t giving him the training he needs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Dose 12.6.2007 - Asia - The Offside - Soccer News and Opinion from leagues around the world</title>
		<link>http://hertha.theoffside.com/team-news/power-struggles-bei-hertha.html#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Dose 12.6.2007 - Asia - The Offside - Soccer News and Opinion from leagues around the world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Power struggles at Hertha Berlin. (Hertha Berlin Offside) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dieter needs to go.  He&#039;s done the club well in the past (Lulu, Pantelic, etc.), but is now causing too many problems in the organization.  Why did we hire a Bayern Muenchen flunky anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dieter needs to go.  He&#8217;s done the club well in the past (Lulu, Pantelic, etc.), but is now causing too many problems in the organization.  Why did we hire a Bayern Muenchen flunky anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Juliet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abby, that&#039;s very interesting.  Thanks (Jan, too!) for digging around to get the story.  I don&#039;t know that I would&#039;ve heard that anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abby, that&#8217;s very interesting.  Thanks (Jan, too!) for digging around to get the story.  I don&#8217;t know that I would&#8217;ve heard that anywhere else.</p>
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