The Talk of the Town

By: Abby | November 17th, 2008

It’s mid-November and we’re still up there. Fourth in the league on 24 points, with another win in our pockets. It’s enough to make people start talking about us. Maybe. Perhaps.


Whatever the case, history repeated itself and Hamburger SV went down 2-1 to Hertha Berlin on Saturday at the Olympiastadion. HSV took the lead with a pretty fantastic Mladen Petric goal, after all of 12 minutes had passed. The teams had gone into the dressing room with that being the only thing separating the two.

Coming out, though, a different Hertha team took the field. Within a minute, Hertha had equalized, and then about a minute later, they’d taken the lead. The first was a cross from Sofian Chahed that found Cicero- I remember when he first came to Hertha and the management had talked up his heading ability as the reason they wanted the Brazilian. I suppose that they were right about that. It certainly wasn’t an easy header to make, being at an odd height when it came to him, but he made it. The second came from Maximillian Nicu setting up young Valeri Domovchiyski, who’d just come on at the half to replace Raffael. Nicu, after getting the ball from Voronin, found himself in quite a lot of space in the Hamburg box and cut the ball back to Domovchiyski, who finished with a neat little chip.

That was enough. Hamburg had enough time to hit the bar through Pitiropa, and there were some decent chances on both sides (perhaps more for Hamburg, but we had the lead, so). In the end there was nothing but Hertha’s fourth home win in a row, enough to pull us over Hamburg and put us into fourth. Still. We’re still fourth.

Martin Jol was cranky at the defeat, but Lulu was pleased, saying that the Hertha players showed character to come back and win the game after the poor first half. I think that’s fair, and I’m pleased. Again, fans of the opposition said that this was a lucky win for die Alte Dame, but this is, perhaps, the third or fourth time. Once or twice, they’re lucky wins. But by the fourth, fifth time? There’s more to it, and more to the team. We’re a solid team that works as a unit, that defends well, and has a bit of attacking class. We’re not perfect yet by any means, and I’m not really expecting to still be fourth in May (maybe I’m being pessimistic, as to not get my hopes up too much, although I do think that title talk is premature), but Lulu has done a fine job here. The talk about a title-challenging squad by 2010 doesn’t sound as far-fetched as it may have. These aren’t really flashy players, nor expensive ones, but they’re getting the job done quite nicely.

One of those players is Cicero Santos, who first charmed me with his name, then his ridiculous quotes, then his playing. I’d forgotten that he was actually a loan, but he’s impressed enough that Hertha is taking up the option to buy him. It was a two-year loan that we had from Fluminese, but he’s settled in so well that we want to make sure we keep him. Especially since we don’t want any other European club nicking him.

So where are we now? The financial situation is pretty good. The team is pretty good. We’re proving we can win without Marko Pantelic- twice now, which means that we can do it if he leaves, but also that he sees he’s not the entire team any more and can’t demand the moon. It’s a cheerful time to be a Hertha fan.

Whee!

Oh, and goals. Here are some goals. Cicero’s and Domovchiyski’s first:

And here’s Petric’s, because it’s worth watching, even though they lost:





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  • diana |  November 18th, 2008 at 3:21 am

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    ‘It’s enough to make people start talking about us. Maybe. Perhaps.’
    I know Raphael Honigstein at the Guardian does. ;) Except towards the end where a small portion of his latest entry at the Guardian is on the Germany-England friendly on Wednesday, it’s all about Hertha.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/nov/18/bundesliga-herthaberlin-raphael-honigstein

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  • Milan |  November 18th, 2008 at 3:31 am

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    A legitimate place in Europe (not entry via the bogus “Fair Play” system!) would be a great achievement this season. Top four? Why not!

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  • Chris |  November 18th, 2008 at 7:12 am

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    The second goal was a bit dubious, you have to admit. . .

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  • Chris |  November 18th, 2008 at 7:13 am

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    Sorry, poor choice of words. Let’s go with “the second goal was a bit SUSPECT, you have to admit . . ”

    :)

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  • Paul |  November 18th, 2008 at 8:44 am

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    It is a great time to be a Hertha fan! The feeling in the stadium was fantastic for the last 2 games. You can’t ask for more than 2 big wins in a row. We aren’t the prettiest team in the league or the strongest, but we are getting the job done. We have beaten every team in the top 5 except Munich – Is that luck?

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  • Jan |  November 18th, 2008 at 11:26 am

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    You can admit that the games against Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, Stuttgart and Hamburg were all very close. But if you want to label those wins as lucky, then you also have to admit that Hertha were unlucky to draw against Bielefeld and Wolfsburg, dominated Cottbus and still lost. Add and subtract the “lucky” and “unlucky” points won/dropped and Hertha will be pretty much were they are now.

    I also have to say, that this particular Honigstein blog post is not really one of his best. I have the feeling he decided to write an article about how you can’t ignore Hertha any longer, without being honest enough to admit that he ignored Hertha as well and hasn’t got a clue (or only a small clue) about the team and the coach. But there are quite a few journalists outside of Berlin’s local press, who now write about Hertha and struggle in the same way. Among quite a bit of ignorance, the fact that 80-90% of the articles fail to acknowledge Hertha’s severe injury problems stands out the most. People try to construct an image of Hertha as the “anti Hoffenheim”. A well drilled and efficient defensive unit. In reality Hertha are/were missing between 5-6 potential first team forwards/attacking midfielders over the last weeks and months. You would have just needed to watch some of the pre-season UEFA Cup games or the first two Bundesliga matches against Frankfurt and Bielefeld to see a much more attacking Hertha side, who incidentally still had their squad together at that time. But even with all the injuries it would be possible to see where things are going with Hertha. Because Favre has given the team a very high overall organisation and structure on both ends: defense and attack. You just need to look at the goals Hertha score. Hertha’s goals in most cases, originate from smart and elegant passing moves (admittedly often from counter attacks). There aren’t unmotivated long range shots with freak deflections going in and all that. Hertha currently do have a problem making the right decisions for the final pass and the final touch. In that respect they are actually very inefficient.

    But next year, when all the long time injured players hopefully return, journalists will get a chance to write about the “miraculous and unexpected metamorphosis” of Hertha, from a defensive to an attack minded team. ;-) /rant

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  • diana |  November 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

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    Jan, thanks for the ‘rant’. You have to forgive me, given when I was reading what Abby wrote, I happened to come across what Honigstein wrote at the Guardian. But then again for non-German speakers like me, I read whatever English-language article on the Bundesliga that come my way. Saves me from the Google Translate.

    Thanks for the ‘insight’ at what make Hertha the way they are these days anyhow. :)

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  • Abby |  November 18th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

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    I definitely think a legitimate UEFA Cup spot is possible. Especially if we get to the winter break in this same position.

    And I think you’re definitely right, Jan. No one thought there would be a Hertha story, so no one’s been paying attention. There are other, more glamorous teams, there’s Hoffenheim to write about, etc. So no one who wasn’t in the Berlin press and therefore obligated to pay attention watched those early games. And they don’t pay attention to who’s absent, because no one has ever heard of any of our players anyway, so how can it be a difference? Since no one’s been paying attention they don’t have a narrative for us yet. And just looking at the results and some of the play can lead one think that we’re the ‘anti-Hoffenheim’, the counterpart to Hoffenheim that makes it all a good story (and, to be fair, it is really tempting, especially with the big city/small town contrast). Lucien Favre’s strength is that while he wants to be Arsene Wenger, he’s willing to change things around when he can’t be.

    Plus, he’s always been ambitious when it comes to Hertha. Honigstein is saying that his talk about having a title-winning team by 2010 is more of Hertha getting ahead of itself- but he’s been saying that for over a year, back when it seemed really silly. (Cicero, on the other hand, is getting ahead of himself in my opinion, but he is an orator, after all.)

    And Chris- perhaps a little, but I’ll take it. ;)

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  • Juliet |  November 18th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

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    Abby, do I sense you holding back? I can’t believe you aren’t swinging from the rafters. I’m practically feeling that way just from Bayern’s 3rd place spot.

    I don’t really have anything useful to add to the discussion, but I’ve really enjoyed reading this entry and the thoughtful comments afterward.

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  • Abby |  November 18th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

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    Juliet- I am, a bit. I always seem to expect the worst for some reason. But inside, really, it’s all rafters. ;) And thank you!

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  • Chris |  November 19th, 2008 at 7:32 am

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    Abby, a belated happy anniversary for you and your blog (October wasn’t it?). You were my inspiration and I have always enjoyed your perspective and your writing.

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